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boehner." we will focus more on that issue and issues facing latino voters later on in today's "washington journal." we will go to the democrat line. ida from longwood, florida. what is the most import issue for you in the second term? caller: the most apparent issue that the news wanted to think is the fiscal cliff. it is interesting the word fiscal cliff is a cliche for "how much money is going to be taken out of the $150 million ira's of mr. romney." understand that the fiscal cliff was imposed by bush to keep the tax benefits for the rich in place. and then in a compromise, obama continued those for another year. because in 2008 there were supposed to run out. nobody is talking about the compromise that he made not to actually bring the the 2008 provisions into place. we have four things we're looking at. they can lead that policy continue. t policycan let tha tpoli continue. some say it will increase spending cuts and will weigh heavily on growth and possibly drive the economy back into a
boehner." we will focus more on that issue and issues facing latino voters later on in today's "washington journal." we will go to the democrat line. ida from longwood, florida. what is the most import issue for you in the second term? caller: the most apparent issue that the news wanted to think is the fiscal cliff. it is interesting the word fiscal cliff is a cliche for "how much money is going to be taken out of the $150 million ira's of mr. romney." understand that...
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i think boehner will do what boehner needs to do. i hope that obama will do what he needs to do, but i think the chances are good and we will not suffer catastrophe, because americans somehow avoid catastrophe. >> mort, this very sensible, and in general there is a good chance of that happening. but i have to take exception to your referenced above board word -- to bob woodward. if he was an hour course, we would help him because of his arguments that barack obama failed to work his will on congress like lyndon johnson did. that is the most naive think i have ever heard in my life. the only reason this kind of presidential leadership and skilled and care is necessary now is it because it follows an election that brought obama won. effort to get back in power of a scorched-earth policy has failed. >> read the book in the movie is coming. questions from the audience, please. >> i am wondering what impact you think a link-up moderate senators, such as brown, lugar, college are going to have on the negotiation? >> we have been waiting fo
i think boehner will do what boehner needs to do. i hope that obama will do what he needs to do, but i think the chances are good and we will not suffer catastrophe, because americans somehow avoid catastrophe. >> mort, this very sensible, and in general there is a good chance of that happening. but i have to take exception to your referenced above board word -- to bob woodward. if he was an hour course, we would help him because of his arguments that barack obama failed to work his will...
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i think boehner will do what boehner needs to do. i hope that obama will do what he needs to do, but i think the chances are good and we will not suffer catastrophe, because americans somehow avoid catastrophe. >> mort, this very sensible, and in general there is a good chance of that happening. but i have to take exception to your referenced above to bob woodward. we would help him because of his arguments that barack obama failed to work his will on congress like lyndon johnson did. that is the most naive thing i have ever heard in my life. the only reason this kind of presidential leadership and skilled and care is necessary now is it because it follows an election that barack obama won. republicans' effort to get back in power of a scorched-earth policy has failed. >> read the book and the movie is coming. questions from the audience, please. >> i am wondering what impact you think of a link-up of moderate senators, such as brown, lugar, are going to have on the negotiation? >> we have been waiting for some time, including for ex
i think boehner will do what boehner needs to do. i hope that obama will do what he needs to do, but i think the chances are good and we will not suffer catastrophe, because americans somehow avoid catastrophe. >> mort, this very sensible, and in general there is a good chance of that happening. but i have to take exception to your referenced above to bob woodward. we would help him because of his arguments that barack obama failed to work his will on congress like lyndon johnson did....
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that means john boehner falling on the grenade. you could do that but when you have eric cantor and kevin mccarthy eager to reach underbelly and pull the pans on that grenade, and it's a little -- it makes it a little bit harder. you will not have a unified leadership to support this. bush took me most about statements on election lee -- election eve is what barack obama said. i want to sit down with mitt romney to see how we can work together to find that common ground. my guess is that mitt romney did not receive that statement with great enthusiasm and the denis. he was going through his own time of morning but having run a campaign in the last month built around that idea, i can reach that common ground. obama call them in and says we really need this. would you help build support for this deal that will have the support of the business community,. delaware of the interesting phenomenon. at the same time, we had an announcement today by simpson bowles both to buy selected a $5 billion in business support for going aggressively
that means john boehner falling on the grenade. you could do that but when you have eric cantor and kevin mccarthy eager to reach underbelly and pull the pans on that grenade, and it's a little -- it makes it a little bit harder. you will not have a unified leadership to support this. bush took me most about statements on election lee -- election eve is what barack obama said. i want to sit down with mitt romney to see how we can work together to find that common ground. my guess is that mitt...
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but john boehner has to be given some kind of cover so he can bring 140 republican votes with him. it will be very difficult to do a. obama will have to immediately decide whether he wants to go off the cliff with the bush tax cuts, or if he will try to get something big and mushy like tax reform. it will have to be massaged in such a way through increased revenue and more money flow and fees. anything to avoid that horrible thing called a tax increase. >> we heard the last panel talked a little bit about redistricting and the impact on partisanship, especially in the house. the senate has gotten more ideological itself after last night. the democrats coming in include this gamut from elizabeth warren to heidi high camp. republicans, there are not many of them coming in, but jeff flake is on the oversight. >> jeff blake is a pro vote when it comes to climate change. elizabeth warren was a republican candidates through the clinton years. the system -- director of the office of federal planning at the trade c
but john boehner has to be given some kind of cover so he can bring 140 republican votes with him. it will be very difficult to do a. obama will have to immediately decide whether he wants to go off the cliff with the bush tax cuts, or if he will try to get something big and mushy like tax reform. it will have to be massaged in such a way through increased revenue and more money flow and fees. anything to avoid that horrible thing called a tax increase. >> we heard the last panel talked a...
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house speaker john boehner yesterday remained steadfast in his position on raising taxes. >> i remain optimistic we're going to be able to find common ground avoid this fiscal cliff and find a way to work together. >> by when? january 1st? >> i would hope so. >> the president is talking about specific increases. he campaigned on specific increases and tax rates from 35% to 39% for those making more than $250,000. so is that on the table right now? >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about? >> i made clear -- >> to have the wealthier americans pitch in. >> -- that raising tax rates is unacceptable. frankly, it couldn't pass the house. >> you will talk about it even if it's the wrong approach. >> of course we'll talk about it. we'll talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable, responsible here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> speaker boehner sounded ready to pull b
house speaker john boehner yesterday remained steadfast in his position on raising taxes. >> i remain optimistic we're going to be able to find common ground avoid this fiscal cliff and find a way to work together. >> by when? january 1st? >> i would hope so. >> the president is talking about specific increases. he campaigned on specific increases and tax rates from 35% to 39% for those making more than $250,000. so is that on the table right now? >> raising taxes...
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john boehner is dealing tw two tensions. he's trying to explain to his conference they have to increase leverage. they don't want to see a middle class tax hike as a result of them standing firm on all the brackets and then us going over the cliff and them being blamed. a political fight that would bruise them through 2013 and into '14, the year they want to pick up a majority in the senate and consolidate their majority in the house and look to the white house in 2016. so he's trying to convince them of the longer view while dealing with the fact many of them are extremely frustrated. they don't believe obama has a mandate, and they want to -- you know, they're spoiling for a fight. he's trying to work through thanksgiving. we're going to see any meat on this bone until after thanksgiving. everyone will take a time to sort of lick their wounds, and then he's hoping the leadership is hoping they can convince the conference to get this off of the table so there's no longer government on the brink and an emergency all the time
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house speaker john boehner responded to the announcement. he said in his statement -- senate minority leader mitch mcconnell has also released a statement, and here is a portion. >> if there is a mandate in yesterday's results, it is a mandate for us to find in a way to get it to work. in the weeks and months ahead, we face a series of tremendous challenges and great opportunity. >> the american people want us to work together. democrats want us to work together. republicans want us to work together to in bank they want a balanced approach. >> the newly elected congress starts work in january but the current congress still has work to do in the lame duck session. work is expected on the impending fiscal cliff. follow all of the floor debates starting tuesday with live house coverage on c-span and the senate on c-span2. >> c-span in by its middle and high school students to send a message to the president through a short video. for a chance to win the grand prize of $5,000. the competition is open to students grades 6 through 12. for complete
house speaker john boehner responded to the announcement. he said in his statement -- senate minority leader mitch mcconnell has also released a statement, and here is a portion. >> if there is a mandate in yesterday's results, it is a mandate for us to find in a way to get it to work. in the weeks and months ahead, we face a series of tremendous challenges and great opportunity. >> the american people want us to work together. democrats want us to work together. republicans want us...
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[video clip] >> the republican national chairman, mitch mcconnell, john boehner, and other republican leaders behind the epic election failure of 2012 should be replaced with leaders more in tune with the conservative base of the republican party. likewise, established republican consultants establishedkarl rove, romney campaign senior advisers, and pollsters should never be hired to run or consult on a national campaign again. nobody would give a dime to the ineffective super pacs like american crossroads. the loss was the death rattle of the establishment republican party. the disaster of 2012 signals the beginning of the battle to take over the republican party and the opportunity to establish the gop as the party of small government, constitutional conservative. host: do you agree with that assessment? guest: not at all. k i do karl rove, the pollster for the romney campaign, and all the others he listed, the republican national chairman -- they are not the problem. the truth is, while i think the tea party is a great addition to the party, the candidates who were truly identified
[video clip] >> the republican national chairman, mitch mcconnell, john boehner, and other republican leaders behind the epic election failure of 2012 should be replaced with leaders more in tune with the conservative base of the republican party. likewise, established republican consultants establishedkarl rove, romney campaign senior advisers, and pollsters should never be hired to run or consult on a national campaign again. nobody would give a dime to the ineffective super pacs like...
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>> the powerful speaker of the house of representatives, john boehner. that was just today and i'm here now with jonathan karl, who has covered the campaign, coverers congress for us. what did you hear? >> reporter: he said raising tax rates is unacceptable. there is an entirely different view of that on the other side of the aisle and at the white house. if the president campaigned on one thing, it was raising tax rates on the wealthy. they say any deal that doesn't do that is unacceptablunaccepta? >> no, what happens next now? i seem to hear the speaker saying, we can talk -- >> he wa >> reporter: he wanted to reassure everybody that a deal will be done. we're not going to get to the brink. we're not going to get to the point where the credit rating is again at risk. he said he's willing to talk about anything and he called himself the most reasonable man in washington. so, i think that he is determined to get something done. >> okay, jon karl, thank you. >>> and now, we're going to turn to the other big story of this day. it is the second storm moving
>> the powerful speaker of the house of representatives, john boehner. that was just today and i'm here now with jonathan karl, who has covered the campaign, coverers congress for us. what did you hear? >> reporter: he said raising tax rates is unacceptable. there is an entirely different view of that on the other side of the aisle and at the white house. if the president campaigned on one thing, it was raising tax rates on the wealthy. they say any deal that doesn't do that is...
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john boehner and mitch mcconnell were still asleep and no woke them up. since then, they have made statements about what they see happening in this next year, indicating that maybe they also slept through the part of the night when the results of the election came in. mr. mcconnell put out a statement what's clear about this election is that the voters have not endorsed president obama's first term. the fact that the president won the election is not an endorsement of the president? filling in a little bubble next to the man's name on a piece of paper is technically how we endorse a person in america. mr. mcconnell does not see it that way. on the political wire the romney's campaign would have could have should have transition website today. surely, this was not supposed to go live until mr. romney actually won the election. the campaign did not wait. they presumably accidentally put it up, a transition website for president-elect romney, how to apply for a job with the new romney administration. looks like because they screen shot it before they finally
john boehner and mitch mcconnell were still asleep and no woke them up. since then, they have made statements about what they see happening in this next year, indicating that maybe they also slept through the part of the night when the results of the election came in. mr. mcconnell put out a statement what's clear about this election is that the voters have not endorsed president obama's first term. the fact that the president won the election is not an endorsement of the president? filling in...
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how much does boehner speak for his conference, by the way? how much leeway does he have to cut a deal that might anger some conservatives? this weekend there were signs of softening among conservatives on the issue of taxes. here is "the weekly standard questions bill kristol sunday. >> it won't kill the country if we raise tax as little bit on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000, make it a million. the republican party is going to defend a bunch of millionaires, half who voted democratic and hatch live in hollywood. >> although tom price who is running to lead the house republican conference said sunday he is open to closing some tax loopholes, he did buck boehner on the issue of health care. >> question, do most house republicans, do you agree with speaker boehner that repeal of obama care with this election, with his re-election, is debt? >> we're not opposed to the president's health care law because of the election. we're opposed because it's bad policy and
how much does boehner speak for his conference, by the way? how much leeway does he have to cut a deal that might anger some conservatives? this weekend there were signs of softening among conservatives on the issue of taxes. here is "the weekly standard questions bill kristol sunday. >> it won't kill the country if we raise tax as little bit on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000, make it a million....
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john boehner has already had one. he's going to have a second one. looks like something good is going to happen. if that happens, let's put our optimistic hats on. how good would that be for stocks? >> well, we have the economy moving ahead slowly now. with an acceleration, i believe, coming from rising housing prices and rising housing starts. housing prices in this country, which have been going down for five or six years, in the last six months have started up and they're up broadry and stro rly in many markets. this is not only going to drive housing starts higher but be a tremendous positive for consumer confidence because along with stocks, the value of people's house, the biggest asset they have. it's been under downward pressure. now it's headed the other way. >> right. i agree. this may have had an impact on the election, by the way, because it's so important to individuals. but let me just take you through this. if the so-called fiscal cliff is solved, we avoid the big year-end tax increase, ken heebner, what concerns a lot of people is tha
john boehner has already had one. he's going to have a second one. looks like something good is going to happen. if that happens, let's put our optimistic hats on. how good would that be for stocks? >> well, we have the economy moving ahead slowly now. with an acceleration, i believe, coming from rising housing prices and rising housing starts. housing prices in this country, which have been going down for five or six years, in the last six months have started up and they're up broadry...
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>> this the challenge that boehner faces. that's why it's so interesting to hear him change his tone. i do think there was -- if you look at the election, you can see from the poll returns that the president has got some momentum. that at least the people agree with what he wants to do in terms of tax reform. he will likely, i'm sure, not only reach out across the aisle but reach out to americans. that's something he's always done, going across the country and jimmying up support for what he sees should happen in terms of these big ticket deals. i think both of these men, boehner, all these men, reid, who are in control are looking at their legacies. they want to get something done. they look at these polls which show that the american people do not hold congress in high regard. they would like to reverse that. they want to have something on their records that speaks to big things. this is a big country. we do big things. we are big ideas centered, and i think that's what they're going to have in mind when they go and look at
>> this the challenge that boehner faces. that's why it's so interesting to hear him change his tone. i do think there was -- if you look at the election, you can see from the poll returns that the president has got some momentum. that at least the people agree with what he wants to do in terms of tax reform. he will likely, i'm sure, not only reach out across the aisle but reach out to americans. that's something he's always done, going across the country and jimmying up support for what...
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>> and you're coming out of an election -- boehner had revenue on the table before. he said he had revenue. that's not a big deal. and you can do it this time while -- yeah. i haven't slept in two days. the point is you can do it on the top line and force negotiations. >> what i was going to say, with romney you can -- romney was out there saying, i do want to get rid of these loopholes. so that's on the table. that's a republican plan right now. you can lower the top line rates, eliminate the loopholes, and raise a bunch of money. everyone can get along. there's a space here to do it. >> anxious to see the role paul ryan is going to play. republican hand wringing. this sandy business, they've got to stop. is it getting a little absurd? >> they have to think over things. you have two warring camps. mcdonnell was confrontational. people are lining up behind him. what they lack is a leader, a leader who can step up. jeb bush might be able to do it, but there is no leader that can unite these camps. >> democrats, 1988. shameless plug. you first? >> my brother and his wi
>> and you're coming out of an election -- boehner had revenue on the table before. he said he had revenue. that's not a big deal. and you can do it this time while -- yeah. i haven't slept in two days. the point is you can do it on the top line and force negotiations. >> what i was going to say, with romney you can -- romney was out there saying, i do want to get rid of these loopholes. so that's on the table. that's a republican plan right now. you can lower the top line rates,...
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john boehner said, a couple of days after the election, that it was time to work on this reform. this got his caucus irritated. host: let's show the folks some of what he said in that statement. >> >> -- [video clip] >> i am not talking about a seven page bill. i am talking about a comprehensive approach to fixing the borders and a broken immigration system. again, on an issue this big, the president has to leave. i think members on both sides of the aisle want to resolve this issue. host: you said that his caucus was surprised by this statement? guest: from louisiana they put out a statement saying that he was upset about many of the things that boehner said, not just immigration, but conversations on the debt in the next couple of weeks. this problem has been in the house since long before the tea party showed up. the rank-and-file get a little bit nervous, understandably. i think that some of them could possibly lose elections, if they are forced to vote on something as controversial as a path to citizenship. i thought it was interesting, there have been some conservative pund
john boehner said, a couple of days after the election, that it was time to work on this reform. this got his caucus irritated. host: let's show the folks some of what he said in that statement. >> >> -- [video clip] >> i am not talking about a seven page bill. i am talking about a comprehensive approach to fixing the borders and a broken immigration system. again, on an issue this big, the president has to leave. i think members on both sides of the aisle want to resolve this...
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john boehner not wanting the president to get all of the limelight, john boehner gave an exclusive one on one interview last night. she wasn't drunk. >> oh, really? >> bill: does anybody believe this? >> i'm the most reasonable responsibility person out here. the president knows he and i can work together. >> bill: i'm the most reasonable man in washington except eric cantor has a gun to my head. >> yeah. >> bill: and to show how totally in denial he is. >> i think this has been the host misreported story of my two years. we don't have a tea party caucus to speak of in the house. >> bill: maybe he should tell michele bachmann that who started the tea party caucus in the house. and tell the 63 tea party republicans that there is no tea party in the house. >> what is he doing? >> bill: i don't know. and again, all they do is lie. michele bachmann started the tea party caucus. maybe they don't always get their way, he can say, but they do. it is the tail wagging the dog we have seen that for the last two years under john boehner. he is not a bad guy, but he is not a leader, and he is not
john boehner not wanting the president to get all of the limelight, john boehner gave an exclusive one on one interview last night. she wasn't drunk. >> oh, really? >> bill: does anybody believe this? >> i'm the most reasonable responsibility person out here. the president knows he and i can work together. >> bill: i'm the most reasonable man in washington except eric cantor has a gun to my head. >> yeah. >> bill: and to show how totally in denial he is....
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boehner and mcconnell still in charge. although they did better and you could argue there's no reason. are you surprised there's not a push to change leaders inside your party even if it's just the face of the party a little bit? >> it's difficult. within the house there is -- i think there will be a battle for the conference chair. >> but it's a -- >> i'm surprised, yeah, but at the same time, we need strong leadership and a strong speaker and i think boehner can do a good job -- >> looks like he's going to get more political leeway. he doesn't have eric cantor. it seems like there's for trust between the two but, jackie, if the american people had known they not only were re-electing status quo but the same people are in the room that gave us the gridlock, i wonder how that ballot would have turned out. >> i wonder if he said it's going to be the same people in the room, and, you know, a lot of this is going to be theater. we were talking about that for the first couple of days, hopefully not weeks but there will be a lo
boehner and mcconnell still in charge. although they did better and you could argue there's no reason. are you surprised there's not a push to change leaders inside your party even if it's just the face of the party a little bit? >> it's difficult. within the house there is -- i think there will be a battle for the conference chair. >> but it's a -- >> i'm surprised, yeah, but at the same time, we need strong leadership and a strong speaker and i think boehner can do a good...
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so john boehner is the most reasonable, responsible guy in washington, according to john boehner. do you agree with that? >> well, you know, it's a new day. and perhaps there's a new john boehner. you know, i'm optimistic, and i think that, you know, elections clarify things and so i think this shows a very positive willingness to make a deal perhaps. >> ana, do you agree with that? >> well, zoraida, let's remember what the house of representatives is like. so it's not a high threshold to be the most responsible person in washington. but i do, you know, i do think that john boehner is doing everything he can to signal he's willing to work to the. i think he received a message that the american people said that they want to see some cooperation. and i do think john boehner is a businessman, a business oriented person who understands the economy, and understands that solving the fiscal cliff would be an important part of not having the economy go off a cliff again. now the big question is, okay, so john boehner thinks he's the most responsible person in washington. will his republic
so john boehner is the most reasonable, responsible guy in washington, according to john boehner. do you agree with that? >> well, you know, it's a new day. and perhaps there's a new john boehner. you know, i'm optimistic, and i think that, you know, elections clarify things and so i think this shows a very positive willingness to make a deal perhaps. >> ana, do you agree with that? >> well, zoraida, let's remember what the house of representatives is like. so it's not a high...
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speaker boehner and harry reid. but it needs to translate into when they get behind closed doors that people are looking for common ground rather than a leg up in the next election. host: which of the g.o.p. leadership due to get tea party members onboard when it comes to negotiating and bargaining. you have worked for many years with house speaker john boehner, both from ohio. what advice did you give him? >> that he has to, without abandoning principle, when people seem to lose sight in this tax discussion, if you look at a $5 trillion package over 10 years, 1.5 frill to $2 trillion in new revenues needs to be a part of that. i think most republicans, i know the speaker accepts that. it's how you get there. so from our perspective if you broaden the base of taxpayers and actually get rid of all the underbrush, you could raise that money, the modeling shows it. on the democratic side they want to sock it to the top 2% of wage earners. people in country are rich. they didn't get rich by being stupid. you really run
speaker boehner and harry reid. but it needs to translate into when they get behind closed doors that people are looking for common ground rather than a leg up in the next election. host: which of the g.o.p. leadership due to get tea party members onboard when it comes to negotiating and bargaining. you have worked for many years with house speaker john boehner, both from ohio. what advice did you give him? >> that he has to, without abandoning principle, when people seem to lose sight in...
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you worked for many years with speaker john boehner. what advice would you give him? guest: without abandoning principle -- people seem to lose sight of, if you look $5 trillion reduction in the deficit, new revenues needs to be a part of that. my perspective is you broaden the base of taxpayers, and you get rid of the underwriting. you could raise that money. on the democrat side they want to tax the to% of wage earners. people back out rich in this country did not get rich by being stupid. you will cause them to start looking for loopholes and deductions. there is a way to get there. where there is a will, there is a way. host: congressman sander levin encouraged us to talk about what these loopholes might be. sinn fein is like deductions for mortgage, education, -- should things like deductions, mortgage, education, should they be on the table? guest: they should be on the table, but not for the middle class. in the last congress, we got 38 votes. what that says this may be for somebody making $2 million, living in a five million-dollar house, maybe do not need the
you worked for many years with speaker john boehner. what advice would you give him? guest: without abandoning principle -- people seem to lose sight of, if you look $5 trillion reduction in the deficit, new revenues needs to be a part of that. my perspective is you broaden the base of taxpayers, and you get rid of the underwriting. you could raise that money. on the democrat side they want to tax the to% of wage earners. people back out rich in this country did not get rich by being stupid....
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decision we had before that lobbying effort started and it's bipartisan i mean we saw howard dean john boehner i mean all these people tens of thousands of dollars lobbied by the m.e. can tend to speak on behalf of them really goes all across the board and it really makes the rhetoric. unless when you see the amount of money being funneled into shape the narrative bend freeman thank you so much extremely important everyone check out the book thanks for coming on thank you very much. so if you like what you see so far go to our you tube channel at youtube dot com slash break in a set and subscribe check out our facebook page at facebook dot com slash breaking the set you know the nature of the internet is that he is going to hate and troll is going to troll if you're intelligent you can always write me and let me know what you think and also if you're wondering about what i'm doing when i'm not on air follow me on twitter abby martin and i take a break from my preaching for now but stay tuned to hear exactly what this fiscal cliff talk is all about next. thanks. so two stories have dominated th
decision we had before that lobbying effort started and it's bipartisan i mean we saw howard dean john boehner i mean all these people tens of thousands of dollars lobbied by the m.e. can tend to speak on behalf of them really goes all across the board and it really makes the rhetoric. unless when you see the amount of money being funneled into shape the narrative bend freeman thank you so much extremely important everyone check out the book thanks for coming on thank you very much. so if you...
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that's what john boehner said we need to see. in reform you get more revenue, but not necessarily by taxing the people who could create the revenue and the jobs. >> austan, before he answers, i'm going to interrupt you. i'll let you answer on the other side. >> 350,000 jobless claims last week, drop from 8,000 claims from the week before and i'm going to go out on a limb and say hurricane sandy, this is the first number we've seen superstorm sandy mess up. we're going to start to see -- if you were hunkered down waiting for a hurricane you weren't necessarily going out to file first time unemployment benefits, were you? from here on out that's a good question for austan, too. we'll start to see a lot of noise in the economic reports as we try to figure out if the economy is healing because of sandy. >> first back to the tax reform question. can you answer that? >> therein lies the rub of the statement yesterday. if by raising revenue through tax reform meant let's go in and figure out how we broaden the base and get rid of deduct
that's what john boehner said we need to see. in reform you get more revenue, but not necessarily by taxing the people who could create the revenue and the jobs. >> austan, before he answers, i'm going to interrupt you. i'll let you answer on the other side. >> 350,000 jobless claims last week, drop from 8,000 claims from the week before and i'm going to go out on a limb and say hurricane sandy, this is the first number we've seen superstorm sandy mess up. we're going to start to...
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>> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said in the past, that higher rates will kill the economy. there is bill kristol pointing out how we've done perfectly fine under higher rates in the past. >> what he's trying to get through to republicans, particularly the new class that came in in 2010, okay, you campaigned on all of these promises, but now it's time to govern and things have come to a standstill in washington over the last two years, and now with the fiscal cliff or fiscal curve coming, and the president being re-elected with more than 50% of the vote, it's time to make a deal. and everyone knows that in order -- that the real deal th
>> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said...
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he called house speaker john boehner yesterday. house leaders from both parties conceding tuesday's election was a call to compromise. >> there's an alternative to going over the fiscal cliff. by working together and creating a fairer, simpler, cleaner tax code, we can give our country a stronger, healthier economy. a stronger economy means more revenue, which is what the president seeks. >> this isn't something that i'm going to draw the lines in the sand, he's not going to draw any lines in the sand, i don't believe, and i think we need to work together. >> the ceo of a global asset management firm put the odds at 30 to 40% that the u.s. will fall off the fiscal cliff. let's hope he's wrong. >>> governor john hickenlooper of colorado says don't break out the cheetos or the goldfish, at least not yet, after voters passed a ballot measure legalizing the recreational use of marijuana. that's setting up a looming legal battle with the justice department. we have this statement from the dea. "the drug enforcement administration's enfo
he called house speaker john boehner yesterday. house leaders from both parties conceding tuesday's election was a call to compromise. >> there's an alternative to going over the fiscal cliff. by working together and creating a fairer, simpler, cleaner tax code, we can give our country a stronger, healthier economy. a stronger economy means more revenue, which is what the president seeks. >> this isn't something that i'm going to draw the lines in the sand, he's not going to draw...
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speaker boehner says this without getting into too much detail. i saw a poll just before the election, 65% of americans were quite happy for people earning more than a quarter of a million dollars a year to pay more tax. how long can the republicans led by the grover norquist gang sustain a position of there is zero movement or flexibility for any increased taxation when most americans think it's perfectly reasonable given there's a $16 trillion debt that the wealthiest should pay more tax? >> let's give some examples of where the two sides could come together. let's say that if you're president obama hypothetically you wanted to have the wealthy pay more, for example, within entitlement reform i think you could get a bipartisan coalition of people to say in the future, not for current recipients but in the future, we're going to means test certain aspects of entitlement benefits and that the wealthy will either pay more or won't qualify for as much. in the area of the tax code, i think you could get agreement to say that certain deductions, exemp
speaker boehner says this without getting into too much detail. i saw a poll just before the election, 65% of americans were quite happy for people earning more than a quarter of a million dollars a year to pay more tax. how long can the republicans led by the grover norquist gang sustain a position of there is zero movement or flexibility for any increased taxation when most americans think it's perfectly reasonable given there's a $16 trillion debt that the wealthiest should pay more tax?...
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can speaker boehner get his own troops in line? that's the fundamental question. >> there is an argument to be made, will. the president is supposed to lead the country, use his bully pulpit to get things done. why can't he use his bully pulpit to bring the two sides together? >> it depends on his desire for that. you heard roland laugh and me say right because he's not going to do that because he doesn't want to do that. by the way he's going to create a new secretary of business he has talked about, some kind of business department above and beyond secretary of commerce. maybe there's a position there, but he's just not going to fill it with mitt romney. this morning there seems to be a love affair with the idea of compromise. fine. okay, fine. bipartisanship. it can't mean what roland just defined it to mean that people who have legitimate disagreement lay down the disagreement to the side that won the most recent election. that's not democracy. you don't win election and suddenly everyone else has to agree with you. compromise
can speaker boehner get his own troops in line? that's the fundamental question. >> there is an argument to be made, will. the president is supposed to lead the country, use his bully pulpit to get things done. why can't he use his bully pulpit to bring the two sides together? >> it depends on his desire for that. you heard roland laugh and me say right because he's not going to do that because he doesn't want to do that. by the way he's going to create a new secretary of business...
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boehner sat down for an exclusive interview with abc's diane sawyer. he said he is willing to listen to the president's proposals even if they clash with gop principles. but he was adamant that raising taxes is not an option. >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about? >> i made clear. >> wealthier americans pitch in here. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and frankly it couldn't even pass the house. putting increased revenues on the table, but through reforming our tax code, and i would do that if the president were serious about solving our spending problem and trying to secure our entitlement programs. i am confident that he and i can find the common ground necessary. >> that common ground may be tough to find because the president has already said he would veto any deal that does not allow tax cuts for the rich to expire. boehner says republicans would introduce new tax revenue as they work toward a deal. >>> the bean counters on capitol hill are out with a
boehner sat down for an exclusive interview with abc's diane sawyer. he said he is willing to listen to the president's proposals even if they clash with gop principles. but he was adamant that raising taxes is not an option. >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about? >> i made clear. >> wealthier americans pitch in here. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and frankly it...
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boehner's tone was good. but as i said, when you look inside and say, well, we can rely on dynamic scoring or lowering rates significantly and closing loopholes, when you begin to dissect that, it has some problems. but i am hopeful that with the business community's help and with the president's leadership, we can bring republicans around. because i think in his heart speaker boehner wants to get something done. >> alan? >> you talked about -- [inaudible] do you have a strategy on -- [inaudible] are you trying to do that -- [inaudible] >> let me say on the general thrust of your question, i think most of our colleagues on both sides of the aisle would say the senate needs to be fixed, that there are some real things wrong with it in the way it functions. there are going to be a lot of discussions over the next few weeks about that, but i'm not going to comment on any specifics until we have those discussions with our colleagues. and it needs to be done not just for one particular issue, but in general to get
boehner's tone was good. but as i said, when you look inside and say, well, we can rely on dynamic scoring or lowering rates significantly and closing loopholes, when you begin to dissect that, it has some problems. but i am hopeful that with the business community's help and with the president's leadership, we can bring republicans around. because i think in his heart speaker boehner wants to get something done. >> alan? >> you talked about -- [inaudible] do you have a strategy on...